Guidelines for Translators - Revision history

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Names, offices and formularies

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		+	==Symbol==
		+	Description of a drawing should not be translated. EG:
		+	::"((piscem))"

	==Fragments ==		==Fragments ==

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 '''Help us improve this section by submitting any further issue or question that you think needs clarification or that should appear among the guidelines''' using the Talk page in the wiki or sending an email to [mailto:translations@eagle-network.eu Working Group 2 - Translations and Content Curation].
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 ::When the emperor Caesar Nerva Trajan Augustus Germanicus Dacicus was chief priest, holding tribunician power for the seventeenth time, acclaimed victor six times, consul six times, father of the country [...]

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 ==Names, offices and formularies ==
 * Proper names should generally be transcribed in the nominative case, e.g.: Quintus Servilius Candidus.
-* Proper names of emperors or well known historical figures can be translated into a modern language, e.g.: Augusto, Guilio Cesare, Trajan, etc.
+* Proper names of emperors or well known historical figures can be translated into a modern language, e.g.: Augusto, Giulio Cesare, Trajan, etc.
 * ''Cognomina ex virtute'' such as Germanicus, Parthicus and similar are preferably to be rendered with 'victor over the Germans' or 'victor in Parthia' and not, as frequently done in Italian, 'Germanico' or 'Partico'.
 * Specific religious, administrative and military offices may be rendered with the tecnical derivative word, but a synthetical explanation should follow. E.g.: flamen (priest); sufete (local magistrate).

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	* ''Cognomina ex virtute'' such as Germanicus, Parthicus and similar are preferably to be rendered with 'victor over the Germans' or 'victor in Parthia' and not, as frequently done in Italian, 'Germanico' or 'Partico'.		* ''Cognomina ex virtute'' such as Germanicus, Parthicus and similar are preferably to be rendered with 'victor over the Germans' or 'victor in Parthia' and not, as frequently done in Italian, 'Germanico' or 'Partico'.
	* Specific religious, administrative and military offices may be rendered with the tecnical derivative word, but a synthetical explanation should follow. E.g.: flamen (priest); sufete (local magistrate).		* Specific religious, administrative and military offices may be rendered with the tecnical derivative word, but a synthetical explanation should follow. E.g.: flamen (priest); sufete (local magistrate).
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		+	==[http://classics.case.edu/asgle/bookshelf/abbreviations-in-latin-inscriptions/ Abbreviations in Latin Inscriptions]==

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-Translating an inscription is a job that raises several questions. With these guidelines we intend to give some suggestions for dealing with specific issues, such as punctuation, diacritic signs, abbreviations, etc. However, these are not mandatory requirements and translators are free to drift from them, should they need to.
+Translating an inscription is a job that raises several questions. With these guidelines we intend to give some suggestions for dealing with specific issues, such as punctuation, diacritic signs, abbreviations, etc. However, these are not mandatory requirements and translators are free to drift from them, should they need to. You can also use the [[Attic Inscription Online guidelines]], of which we offer a summary here.
 At present, these guidelines include only a small number of questions regarding translations but many more should be considered. They are an excerpt, for full reference see: F. Bigi, ''Towards an EAGLE Standard in Translating Inscriptions'', in ''Proceedings of the First EAGLE Conference Paris'', forthcoming.

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 Translating an inscription is a job that raises several questions. With these guidelines we intend to give some suggestions for dealing with specific issues, such as punctuation, diacritic signs, abbreviations, etc. However, these are not mandatory requirements and translators are free to drift from them, should they need to.
-At present, these guidelines include only a small number of questions<ref><sup>They are an excerpt, for full reference see: F. Bigi, ''Towards an EAGLE Standard in Translating Inscriptions'', in ''Proceedings of the First EAGLE Conference Paris'', forthcoming.</sup></ref> regarding translations but many more should be considered. '''Help us improve this section by submitting any further issue or question that you think needs clarification or that should appear among the guidelines''' using the Talk page in the wiki or sending an email to [mailto:pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de].
+At present, these guidelines include only a small number of questions regarding translations but many more should be considered. They are an excerpt, for full reference see: F. Bigi, ''Towards an EAGLE Standard in Translating Inscriptions'', in ''Proceedings of the First EAGLE Conference Paris'', forthcoming.
-== 3.1 Fragments ==
+==Fragments ==
 Minor fragments, fragmentary texts or too fragmentary parts of an otherwise translatable texts should not be translated. Eg:
 ::''<nowiki>[...]di
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 Translating an inscription is a job that raises several questions. With these guidelines we intend to give some suggestions for dealing with specific issues, such as punctuation, diacritic signs, abbreviations, etc. However, these are not mandatory requirements and translators are free to drift from them, should they need to.
-At present, these guidelines include only a small number of questions<ref name="ftn1"><sup>They are an excerpt, for full reference see: F. Bigi, ''Towards an EAGLE Standard in Translating Inscriptions'', in ''Proceedings of the First EAGLE Conference Paris'', forthcoming.</sup></ref> regarding translations but many more should be considered. '''Help us improve this section by submitting any further issue or question that you think needs clarification or that should appear among the guidelines''' using the Talk page in the wiki or sending an email to [mailto:pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de].
+At present, these guidelines include only a small number of questions<ref><sup>They are an excerpt, for full reference see: F. Bigi, ''Towards an EAGLE Standard in Translating Inscriptions'', in ''Proceedings of the First EAGLE Conference Paris'', forthcoming.</sup></ref> regarding translations but many more should be considered. '''Help us improve this section by submitting any further issue or question that you think needs clarification or that should appear among the guidelines''' using the Talk page in the wiki or sending an email to [mailto:pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de].
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	Translating texts: guidelines by Francesca Bigi		Translating texts: guidelines by Francesca Bigi

−	Appendices of translated common abbreviations like [[Keppie]]’s and
		+	Translating an inscription is a job that raises several questions. With these guidelines we intend to give some suggestions for dealing with specific issues, such as punctuation, diacritic signs, abbreviations, etc. However, these are not mandatory requirements and translators are free to drift from them, should they need to.
−	glossaries like Andreu Pintado’s may very well be the starting point of a discussion on an EAGLE vocabulary, which could ideally form the core of the expected Deliverable on Translations.

−	Too fragmentary parts of an otherwise translatable texts can also be left aside and properly signalled with diacritic signs.
		+	At present, these guidelines include only a small number of questions<ref name="ftn1"><sup>They are an excerpt, for full reference see: F. Bigi, ''Towards an EAGLE Standard in Translating Inscriptions'', in ''Proceedings of the First EAGLE Conference Paris'', forthcoming.</sup></ref> regarding translations but many more should be considered. '''Help us improve this section by submitting any further issue or question that you think needs clarification or that should appear among the guidelines''' using the Talk page in the wiki or sending an email to [mailto:pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de pietro.liuzzo@zaw.uni-heidelberg.de].

−	Round brackets conventionally used for resolving an abbreviated word should never appear in the translation.

−	Square brackets should also be omitted when the whole text is re- stored to full intelligibility and/or the proposed integrations are marked by the editor as certain.
		+	== 3.1 Fragments ==
		+	Minor fragments, fragmentary texts or too fragmentary parts of an otherwise translatable texts should not be translated. Eg:

−	In such cases the omitted words are hardly ever integrated by the editor, but in order to render the original meaning properly, the translator should instead add their correspondant. The insertion should be easily detectable and thus properly marked within round brackets.
		+	::''<nowiki>[...]di
		+	[...]tis
		+	[...
		+	Ne]ptuni
		+	[...]n</nowiki>''

−	Lost portions devoid of integration, either at the end or at any other point of the inscription, should be signalled like in original text by means of [...] or [---] and never with ....
		+	::''<nowiki> [Imp(eratore) Caes(are) Nerua Tr]aiano [Au]g(usto) Ger(manico) D[acico]
		+	[pontif(ice) max(imo) trib(unicia)] pot[est](ate) XVII im[p(eratore) VI co(n)s(ule) VI p(atre) p(atriae)] / [·· ? ··]VEV[·· ? ··] / [---]// [·· ? ··]nio[·· ? ··] //[·· ? ··]ell[·· ? ··]// [·· ? ·· h]onora[·· ? ··] / [·· ? ··]rauit [·· ? ··]</nowiki>''

		+	::When the emperor Caesar Nerva Trajan Augustus Germanicus Dacicus was chief priest, holding tribunician power for the seventeenth time, acclaimed victor six times, consul six times, father of the country [...]

−	The tendency to ’Italianize’ applies also to the cognomina ex virtute, thus Germanicus, Parthicus and similar are rendered with Germanico and Partico, as opposed the English ’victor over the Germans’ or ’victor in Parthia’. This is one of those cases when the less lapidary translation is certainly to be preferred: ’victor over the Germans’ fully renders the meaning of the Latin expression and annihilates the risk of misinterpre- tation. Note that for an Italian non-specialist reader Germanico means of German origin.

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−	Use the modern word closest to Latin and have it followed by its sinthetical explanation: flamine (sacerdote), sufeta (magistrato locale), etc.
		+	<references/>
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−	tribuniciae potestates, imperial salutations and the already mentioned cognomina ex virtute, should again be translated in a manner that allows the reader to grasp the meaning, thus imperator X should be rendered with ’acclamato imperatore per la decima volta’ (acclaimed emperor for the tenth time) e not simply ’imperatore per la decima volta’ (emperor for the tenth time).
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−	U. Gehn that we should ideally be able to mark up these expressions like it is done in a Wikipedia page, so that they could be linked to an external resource which would allow further explanations, should the reader wish them.
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−
−	{{Cite book
−	\| publisher = Johns Hopkins University Press
−	\| isbn = 0801843227 9780801843228 0801843529 9780801843525
−	\| last = Keppie
−	\| first = L. J. F
−	\| title = Understanding Roman inscriptions
−	\| location = Baltimore
−	\| date = 1991
−	}}
−
−	{{Cite book
−	\| publisher = Liceus, Servicios de Gestión y Comunicación
−	\| last = Andreu Pintado
−	\| first = J.
−	\| title = Fundamentos de Epigrafia Latina
−	\| location = Madrid
−	\| accessdate = 2014-07-29
−	\| date = 2009
−	\| url = http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=3005085
−	}}

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 Translating texts: guidelines by Francesca Bigi
-Appendices of translated common abbreviations like [Keppie]’s and
+Appendices of translated common abbreviations like [[Keppie]]’s and
 glossaries like Andreu Pintado’s may very well be the starting point of a discussion on an EAGLE vocabulary, which could ideally form the core of the expected Deliverable on Translations.